I want to watch The Da Vinci Code.
I like controversy.
But my mom would never let me.
I suddenly really want to watch The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
But it’s 10 and I have to get up at 6.
I think maybe I’ll have a Disney Renaissance day tomorrow.
I heard that at the beginning of the trailer for the new Fast and the Furious movie there’s a funeral and one character says there will be no more deaths and Paul Walker’s character says, “No, there will be one more.” That’s creepy.
I wonder what get will do. They never finished shooting.
The scene at the end of The Exorcist when Father Karras is given his final confession may be one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen. It hits you hard. He was struggling with his faith the whole movie and at the end he accepts his faith and sacrifices himself for Regan. Seeing the character die for her is such a surreal moment.
I’m very confused with how I feel right now because I have always liked Halloween, but I saw Black Christmas and now see Halloween as a carbon copy, and I don’t want to feel that way about Halloween. :/ Gah.
Halloween was supposed to be a sequel, if I remember. But…I don’t think all of those characters were ripoffs of Norman Bates. They were all killers. Just because they were all the killers doesn’t mean they were all ripoffs. They’re all very different characters. I think Norman was just an inspiration in that sense. I’ve heard the sequel thing too, but if that’s true someone is lying because I’ve always heard that the title Halloween was suggested by Irwin Yablans and that suggestion had nothing to do with Black Christmas. The idea was conceived as an entirely separate thing never meant to be a sequel.
Actually the title for Halloween was The Babysitter Murders. I guess they wanted to cash into the holiday killer film boom and named it Halloween instead.
Since then, the list grew. Friday the 13th, Halloween, April Fool’s Day, My Bloody Valentine, Silent Night, Deadly Night….I know that it was originally titled The Babysitter Murders. I’m just saying that the title Halloween came from someone linked to the project during production.
Guess Halloween had more of a ring to it to highlight the ambiguity rather than be so outlandishly obvious. Although the point being in that the murders took place at Halloween, where dark secrets were disguised by superstition.
I wonder why Michael decided to attack at Halloween?Doctor Wynn and the Thorn Cult. xD *Insert inappropriate Myers baby joke here.*
I need to watch the rest of the films. At the weekend.
Is that where that comes from?Yes, it is. But it’s also where the biggest “WtF?” Moment of the series comes from.
I remember reading about some book that was published after Halloween that linked to a cult and completely changed the story. Which of the sequels does it take place in?Part 6. I’d love to hear your thoughts on it after you see it! :D People are pretty split on Halloween 6.
Sure thing! I’m planning on seeing the sequels at the weekend after completing the Nightmare On Elm Street series. I should get back to you soon. I’d love to see the Halloween sequels.
I’ve heard. I believe it was losing life as the 90’s began and that apparently they’d undone canons and the logic if I recall. I’ll understand it more when I see it. I really loved the first one.
What makes people so split on it? There are flaws, but I’m sure there’s good points. What did you think of it?
Well I’ll try to stay spoiler free, but basically people don’t like the cult thing. There’s also a whole plot point with a baby that’s up for debate but you’ll know it when you see it. Halloween 6 had a very troubled production. The script went through 11 drafts, and the intended release was not what we ended up getting. There’s a version called the Producer’s Cut, which was supposed to be the theatrical release, but it was very poorly received and has never had an official release (but if you’re interested, it can be found on torrent sites). The version we got was rushed and choppy, the pacing is very strange. Donald Pleasance had passed away by the time they were going to do reshoots, and they had to work around it. I think one of the strongest points of it is Michael’s personality. He’s just enraged during it and furious and I think that’s how he works best. He’s just consumed with rage. I can’t be that harsh on it because there is one aspect of 6 (again, it would spoil it) that really got me into the series. I grew up with Halloween, but this one aspect of six just fascinated me and it set off my current interest. As for the retconned timeline, that happens in part 7 and it messes up what is and isn’t canon. I think they’re all worth checking out though. I personally enjoy all movies of the original series, even the weaker ones.
You’d think it’d be easier to not go down the route of cults and backstories, but perhaps it would work to see how it’s played out.
Maybe that’s why it didn’t work. 11 drafts and the idea got lost (I wonder what the original script said?) I would’ve loved to see how it could have original turned out, maybe it could stuck to canon if that’s how everything was intended.
I’ll check it out once I see the 6th one, then perhaps there will be a clear difference depending on what was wrong with the Producer’s Cut (have you seen it?). It’s good sometimes to see how it would have worked just in case the initial reception was poor - but if we got something that the production crew intended then it could have been released earlier because of that. The subplot of a baby sounds strange but I’ll see for myself.
Donald Pleasance’s death was obviously unavoidable, but, as I said earlier, the intended purpose of the film would have been able to work around that. Was there any reason why they had to keep redrafting the script?
Michael Myers is significant as much as Laurie is. Is he (apart from Loomis) one of the strongest characters in the series? I like how you like him, even by part 6, looks like he’s really holding up. They must have known what they were doing with Myers then.
You can tell me once I’ve seen it because I’d love to hear what it is (couldn’t be that bad, surely?). It is something I’d like to talk about too (I get consumed with the good parts - I can never get over the ANOES series).
They are all worth checking out and I’m glad to see your interest in them. It sets me off too. I really love Michael Myers as a character.
What is the basis of a retcon? It does sound like a bad idea, if there are any good versions of them. It sounds like they’ve rigged the timeline and are doing something horrible with it. Especially considering you say that it messes up the canons. But from talking to you, it’s great to know all the films have their good and bad points.
If you type in “Halloween 6 script” on Google, you will find a version of the script that is different from both the Producer’s and the Theatrical version, but whether or not it is the true original I don’t know. It’s far more psychological (I would like to get into it but two many spoilers are at risk). I’ve never seen the Producer’s Cut in full. I’ve seen the really significant scenes, the ones people talk about the most, but I’m unwilling to download it as I need my laptop and I can’t risk getting a virus. I have read about the differences, though. Honestly, I don’t know why they had to keep changing the script so much. As for Michael’s characterization, it has its ups and downs, depending on the movie. I think some directors were more in touch with the character than others. I like his character in all the movies, but I think it’s strongest in 1, 2, 4, 6, & 7. 5 & 8 are lacking, and 3 doesn’t have him in it. And the part I like about it is also one of the major things that divides fans. I like it because I think it could’ve led the series down an interesting path, but then the retcon happened because they thought they wrote themselves into a corner and had nowhere to go, and they ignored a whole storyline. I personally hate how they did that. I like something like ANOES where all the movies are in one continuity, so if I wanted to watch a marathon it’s easy. With Halloween, you watch a few movies and then are asked to forget everything and start new. H20, the start of the new timeline, isn’t bad. It’s just annoying how it doesn’t fit with the rest. And thank you! :D I enjoy talking to you, too. I don’t know many horror fans in my school.
Wait, Sundance didn’t cut out the “f*** me” part. This has me curious about how they’ll treat the crucifix scene.